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guys, I know my japanese isn't that good..[br]but I'd love to learn kansai-ben..[br][br]can you show me the words of it?[br]like:nandeyanen,honma ni,honmayan,[br]omoroi, [br]kamahenyo.. etc[br][br]with the meaning..[br]and with the writing system to..  ^^[br][br]
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For those of you who don't know, [color=#3289c7]Kansai ben 関西弁[/color] means the Kansai dialect and there are many, many, many dialects in Japan. There are 7 big dialects, and I believe Kansai is the second biggest one next to [color=#3289c7]Tokyo ben[/color]. Tokyo ben is the most popular and is considered the standard dialect ([color=#3289c7]Hyojungo[/color]).[br][br]Even if you stay in Tokyo, you'll encounter a lot of people talking in a Kansai dialect. In fact, you'll most likely see it most in pop culture such as in jpop, anime, drama, and movies as it's popular to include other dialects in entertainment. So if you didn't know you heard it before, you most likely did. ;)[br][br]What does a dialect mean, is it much different than the hyojungo (aka Tokyo dialect)? Well, some can be, but Kansai is close enough to just have an accent change, some (few) wording changes, and grammar changes. It's not much in the sense that you would need to learn a whole new language like some dialects around the world. It's close enough so that you can learn the dialect if you know Tokyo ben very well since you will understand the context.[br][br][color=#3289c7]Nandeyanen 何でやねん[/color] pretty much means "What the hell?", I made a post about this in the old forums and it's a fun word to use. You may hear anime characters use this from time to time.[br][br] Honma ni 本間に is an adverb that kind of means "seriously" or "truly". "I'm seriously scared right now" for example.[br][br]As you can see, Kansai can seem pretty rude or informal and that's what a lot of drama tends to reflect upon when they make their characters talk that way. It's like a Californian listening to a Texan or a Texan listening to someone from Jersey. It's the same English but with its own set of way to say things, sometimes you can understand through context but sometimes you can't, like Jersey, what the heck is a muff cabbage?[br][br]Here's another example on how Kansai ben changes grammar, you know the copula da [color=#3289c7]だ[/color]? They use ya [color=#3289c7]や[/color] instead. If you were to say Suki da yo in hyokungo, you would say suki ya de in kansai. Your mind just blew up, I know...[br][br]If you want to express your opinion or ask the listener for an agreement, you could also use the suffix [color=#3289c7]やん (yan)[/color], and many people use this a lot while speaking. If you were to say "isn't it cute?" it would be [color=#3289c7]kawaiiyan かわいいやん[/color].[br][br]The list goes on and on and on, but I hope that this micro-lesson was helpful. Jappleng is just getting started which means that it may be months at least before there are lessons specifically tailored for different dialects ([i]although people are more than welcome to write them since Jappleng is non-profit[/i]). [br][br]Thank you for posting and I hope to see you around a lot more! :)[br]
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I didn't know there were different dialects in japan. i learned something new today
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